Legislature(2019 - 2020)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/28/2020 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:00:40 AM Start
09:02:08 AM SB50
09:54:16 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ SB 50 EMPLOYMENT TAX FOR EDUCATION FACILITIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 50                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  imposing  an  annual  educational  facilities                                                                    
     maintenance and  construction tax on net  earnings from                                                                    
     self-employment    and   wages;    relating   to    the                                                                    
     administration  and  enforcement   of  the  educational                                                                    
     facilities  maintenance   and  construction   tax;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:02:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLICK BISHOP, SPONSOR, introduced himself.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DARWIN  PETERSON, STAFF,  SENATOR  CLICK BISHOP,  introduced                                                                    
himself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:02:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop stated  that the bill would  establish a head                                                                    
tax  to   raise  money  for  new   school  construction  and                                                                    
maintenance. He spoke  of the needs of both  rural and urban                                                                    
areas of the  state when it came to  school construction. He                                                                    
believed   that  deferred   maintenance   was  a   financial                                                                    
liability  to  the  state. He  lamented  that  the  deferred                                                                    
maintenance for schools totaled  $149 million. He noted that                                                                    
deferred maintenance  should be part of  the conversation at                                                                    
the  table  about  sound  economic  policy.  He  said  that,                                                                    
factoring in inflation, per capita  spending was on par with                                                                    
1996. He  mentioned the education raffle  legislation, which                                                                    
raised  voluntary donations  form  the  permanent fund,  and                                                                    
shared  that  this bill  would  work  in tandem  to  address                                                                    
deferred  maintenance. He  said that  $2.5 billion  left the                                                                    
state  in non-resident  monies only  to go  into schools  in                                                                    
other states.  He believed  the time was  right to  pass the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:06:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson further addressed the details of the bill. He                                                                      
read from the sponsor statement:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     From 1919-1980,  Alaska had  an annual  employment head                                                                    
     tax  for the  purpose  of collecting  revenues to  fund                                                                    
     schools.    The     tax    went     through    numerous                                                                    
     transformations, but it always  charged an equal amount                                                                    
     to each  employed individual. When  it was  repealed in                                                                    
     1980,  the  tax  was  $10  per  person  which  has  the                                                                    
     equivalent value of $30 today.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     SB  50 proposes  to  revive the  repealed  head tax  on                                                                    
     employed  individuals, both  resident and  nonresident,                                                                    
     with  income  from  a source  in  Alaska.  The  "Alaska                                                                    
     Education  Facilities,  Maintenance,  and  Construction                                                                    
     Tax"  would collect  $30 from  each person  employed in                                                                    
     the  state.   The  tax  would   be  withheld   from  an                                                                    
     employee's  first   paycheck  each  year   while  self-                                                                    
     employed  individuals   would  be  required   to  remit                                                                    
     payment to  the Alaska  Department of Revenue.  The tax                                                                    
     would be  deductible on an individual's  federal income                                                                    
     tax return.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     According  to  the  most  recent  statistics  from  the                                                                    
     Alaska  Department of  Labor and  Workforce Development                                                                    
     and  the U.S.  Census Bureau,  there are  approximately                                                                    
     441,596 employed individuals in  Alaska. Roughly 20% of                                                                    
     those workers  who earn their  living in Alaska  do not                                                                    
     reside here  resulting in  $2.5 billion  in nonresident                                                                    
     income that  leaves Alaska's economy each  year and, in                                                                    
     most cases, gets taxed by a nonresident's home state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  estimated  that this  tax  would  generate  $13                                                                    
     million  each  year.  The revenue  collected  would  be                                                                    
     deposited into  the state's general fund  and accounted                                                                    
     for separately  to pay for the  growing maintenance and                                                                    
     construction needs of Alaska's schools.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Peterson   added   that   the   30,000   self-employed                                                                    
individuals  would self-report.  He  said  that the  states                                                                     
share for  the FY 21  school major maintenance  totaled $149                                                                    
million  and the  FY 21  total  school construction  totaled                                                                    
$142 million. He  noted the support letters  in member files                                                                    
from various education organizations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:09:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson looked  at Section  2, page  3. He  wondered                                                                    
about people working  in a  gig  economy, who  might pay the                                                                    
tax many  times in one  year and wondered about  refunds for                                                                    
overpayment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop read from Line 1:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     (b) An  employer is liable  for the tax required  to be                                                                    
     withheld  from an  employee 2  unless the  employer can                                                                    
     demonstrate that the employer  relied on proof provided                                                                    
     by the 3  employee that the total tax  for the calendar                                                                    
     year  imposed under  AS 43.45.011  had  4 already  been                                                                    
     withheld   under  this   section  or   paid  under   AS                                                                    
     43.45.031.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:10:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  was concerned about gig  economy workers who                                                                    
might slip through the cracks.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson  explained that if  a person paid the  tax more                                                                    
than once they would be able  to apply to the department for                                                                    
a refund.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked that  retired people  were exempt                                                                    
as pensions were not included.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered whether  there was a consideration                                                                    
for adding funds for maintenance  to the Public-School Trust                                                                    
Fund. He thought  that could be a way to  increase the funds                                                                    
value.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:12:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop replied  that it had not  been considered but                                                                    
that it was a good idea.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  pointed to  Page 4,  lines 17  and 18,                                                                    
which  discussed the  accounting of  funds. He  wondered how                                                                    
the funds were dispersed under AS 37.05.560.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson deferred to the department.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI  TESHNER,  DIRECTOR,  FINANCE  AND  SUPPORT  SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF EDUCATION  AND EARLY  DEVELOPMENT, introduced                                                                    
herself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
TIM MEARIG, FACILITIES MANAGER,  DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND                                                                    
EARLY DEVELOPMENT, introduced himself.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Teshner  asked  Senator  Wielechowski  to  restate  his                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Wielechowski   asked   about  the   criteria   for                                                                    
determining  how  the   funds  for  educational  facilities,                                                                    
maintenance, and construction, under AS 37.05.560.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Teshner replied that the  department would receive funds                                                                    
from  the  legislature  and based  on  those  appropriations                                                                    
project funds would be distributed in rank order.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked whether  the department  had considered                                                                    
alternative ways to distribute the funds.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Teshner understood  that the  Public-School Trust  Fund                                                                    
funded the  foundation program, and  a change would  need to                                                                    
be made in the distribution of funds.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked about priorities for the funds.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Teshner   said  that   the  department   favored  major                                                                    
maintenance school construction.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof requested a  flow chart of formula versus                                                                    
maintenance and the different fund sources.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Teshner agreed to provide that information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:16:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked about  other types  of income,  such as                                                                    
the permanent fund dividend or stock market earnings.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof queried  what type  of income,  based on                                                                    
the  Internal  Revenue  Service (IRS)  definition  would  be                                                                    
taxed.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson replied  that  the only  thing  that would  be                                                                    
taxed would be wages and self-employed income.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof  surmised the tax would  apply to direct,                                                                    
earned income.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof OPENED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:18:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM  ANDERSON,  CFO,  ANCHORAGE SCHOOL  DISTRICT,  ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via teleconference),  testified in support of  the bill. He                                                                    
stressed that the  bill would allow for  a different revenue                                                                    
source to  provide support for  rural districts.  He thought                                                                    
that  the  bill  reinforced  the   need  to  maintain  state                                                                    
infrastructure. He thanked the committee for their time.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:20:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR  STORRS,  ALASKA  CHILDREN'S  TRUST,  ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  spoke in  support of  the legislation.  He                                                                    
believed in investing in schools  and children and providing                                                                    
a  quality, equitable  education  for  Alaskan children.  He                                                                    
spoke to  the maintenance challenges faced  by districts. He                                                                    
lamented  that the  tax  was regressive  and  could place  a                                                                    
burden on low income families.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:22:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  KLAAMEYER, ANCHORAGE  EDUCATION ASSOCIATION,  ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via  teleconference),  spoke in  support  of  the bill.  He                                                                    
believed  that the  legislation  was a  modest  step in  the                                                                    
right  direction.   Further  cuts  could  not   be  made  to                                                                    
education.  He supported  the  consideration of  alternative                                                                    
revenue streams.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:24:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERRY BOYD,  SUPERINTENDENT, YUKON KOYOKUK  SCHOOL DISTRICT,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), testified in support  of SB
50. She  lamented that education  had been flat  funded over                                                                    
the previous  years, while operational and  healthcare costs                                                                    
had risen. She felt that  the state should be responsible to                                                                    
maintain and  construct schools.  She thanked  the committee                                                                    
for their work.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:26:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROLINE STORM, SELF,  ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in  support  of  the  legislation. He  believed  that  funds                                                                    
should  be available  for  school  maintenance. She  thought                                                                    
that  deferring maintenance  was costing  the state  more in                                                                    
the long run. She was  concerned about the regressive nature                                                                    
of the tax and hoped  that other funding mechanisms could be                                                                    
explored.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  MUNICIPAL                                                                    
LEAGUE, JUNEAU, testified in support  of the legislation. He                                                                    
felt that local governments  were comfortable and understood                                                                    
the nature of taxes. He  shared that prior to the moratorium                                                                    
on school  bond debt  reimbursement, municipalities  had not                                                                    
generally applied  to grant programs.  He believed  that the                                                                    
state   would    experience   an   increasing    need   from                                                                    
municipalities    for   the    state   to    fulfill   their                                                                    
constitutional  obligation. He  spoke  to  the aging  school                                                                    
building in  the state. He  felt that  the bill was  a small                                                                    
step toward addressing a very large need.                                                                                       
9:32:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LISA PARADY,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  ALASKA COUNCIL  OF SCHOOL                                                                    
ADMINISTRATORS,  spoke in  support of  the bill.  She echoed                                                                    
the comments of previous testifiers.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:33:09 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:33:21 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Parady continued her remarks.  She said that diversified                                                                    
revenue streams  would be very  beneficial to the  state. He                                                                    
stated   that  the   proposed   head   tax  would   generate                                                                    
approximately $13 million per year.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:35:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:36:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  discussed the fiscal notes.  The first was                                                                    
a  zero note  from  the Department  of  Labor and  Workforce                                                                    
Development, Employment and  Training Services, Unemployment                                                                    
Insurance,  OMB  Component 2276.  The  second  was from  the                                                                    
Department of Revenue, Taxation  and Treasury, Tax Division,                                                                    
OMB  Component  2476,  which   showed  expected  revenue  of                                                                    
9,344.0 in FY  21. The second year on  expenditures were the                                                                    
same but revenue was expected to rise to $13,366.0.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof asked about  the capital  investment for                                                                    
the implementation cost.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed  the implementation cost outlined                                                                    
in the analysis of the fiscal note.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von  Imhof noted that  the implementation  cost had                                                                    
risen from $8 million to $11 million over the last year.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:39:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON  SPANOS, DEPUTY  DIRECTOR, TAX  DIVISION, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF REVENUE, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), stated that the                                                                    
implementation  costs   had  increased  because   of  system                                                                    
required for the  development of a broad-based  tax. The Tax                                                                    
Management Revenue System (TRMS)  had originally been rolled                                                                    
out in 2015  and cost $9 million. The  department planned to                                                                    
use  the  most up-to-date  system  to  develop the  tax,  an                                                                    
upgrade from  Version 9, to  Version 12 would  be necessary.                                                                    
The  tax would  require the  same development  of any  other                                                                    
broad-based  tax   and  the   department  believed   it  was                                                                    
necessary to upgrade the system before coding any new tax.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  asked  whether  the  new  system  would  be                                                                    
expandable to include another capital request.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:40:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spanos  said that  it would depend.  He said  that there                                                                    
was funding  in the current  budget for the TRMS  system. He                                                                    
said that  Version 12 was  more future proof  and additional                                                                    
programming could be done without  expanding cost. He said a                                                                    
major change,  like an income tax,  would require additional                                                                    
capital cost.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  asked which  department would  be collecting                                                                    
the tax.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spanos replied  that DOR  was expected  to collect  and                                                                    
administer the  tax. He  said that  the Department  of Labor                                                                    
and Workforce Development (DLWD)  could collect the tax, but                                                                    
it would  have to then  be remitted  to DOR. He  stated that                                                                    
DOR  would   still  need  to  register   all  taxpayers.  He                                                                    
explained  that if  someone had  two jobs  in one  month the                                                                    
department  would need  to administer  a refund.  He thought                                                                    
that the  most recent  version of the  system was  to system                                                                    
was robust enough to mitigate double payments.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:44:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  noted that the legislation  stated that DLWD                                                                    
would  collect the  tax and  remit  it to  DOR. He  wondered                                                                    
whether the language should be cleaned up.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson replied  that the  language had  been inserted                                                                    
giving DLWD  the ability to collect  the tax if it  were the                                                                    
most  cost-effective route.  If it  was not  cost effective,                                                                    
then DOR would collect the tax.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  wondered  how  the  tax  would  work  for                                                                    
commercial fishing and processing  that happened outside the                                                                    
3-mile limit.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop deferred to Mr. Peterson.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson  understood that  these would  be self-employed                                                                    
persons.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:46:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman thought not all  would be self-employed. He                                                                    
wondered whether the fisheries workers  would be held to the                                                                    
honor system.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson replied that fish  processers would be required                                                                    
to  withhold $30  from every  employees  first  paycheck. If                                                                    
they  did not  there  would  be a  penalty  imposed by  DOR.                                                                    
Fishing  vessels   would  be  expected  to   self-remit.  He                                                                    
deferred to the  department on the issue  of enforcement for                                                                    
self-employed individuals.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spanos  explained that self-employed individuals  had to                                                                    
file a 1099  form with the IRS, which would  also need to be                                                                    
filed with DOR.  The department would expect a  return to be                                                                    
filed with  the self-employed  person. If  a return  was not                                                                    
filed, the  department would send  a reminder letter  in the                                                                    
mail.  He shared  that due  to the  low figure  of the  tax,                                                                    
there would not been an extreme pursuit for payment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:49:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thought  that  there  was  potential  for                                                                    
leakage because many fishermen resided out-of-state.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  understood  Co-Chair  Stedmans   point.  He                                                                    
thought  that the  Division  of Wage  and  Hour could  speak                                                                    
before the committee about floating processors.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  asked whether  teen-aged  babysitters                                                                    
would need to submit something to DLWD.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spanos  replied that a  person who was a  babysitter was                                                                    
considered  self-employed but  would  only need  to file  if                                                                    
they  were making  over  $600.  The IRS  did  not require  a                                                                    
person to file if they made under $1300.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:52:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski wondered  whether unemployment benefits                                                                    
or workers compensation be considered benefits.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spanos replied  that they would be  considered wages for                                                                    
federal  tax purposes.  He  agreed to  follow  up with  more                                                                    
information as the question pertained to the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair von Imhof discussed housekeeping.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB  50  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 50 support resolutions 2.12.20.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 support letters 2.12.20.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 support emails 2.12.20.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 Sponsor Statement ver.K 2.12.20.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 Sectional Analysis ver.K 2.12.20.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 Non-Residents Working in Alaska 2018 published February 2020.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 News-Miner opinion 4.15.19.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 News-Miner Editorial 3.12.19.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 Explanation of Changes in CSSB50(L&C) ver.K.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 - FY21 Major Maintenance Final List.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 1/28/2020 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 1/30/2020 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 - FY21 School Construction Final List.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 - Updated Resolution in Support - Denali Borough 2.12.20.pdf SFIN 2/28/2020 9:00:00 AM
SB 50